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Ralph Horner of East Marforth
John Horner of Rookwith
John Horner Thornton Watlass
William Horner, of Watlass Wood
William Horner of Firby and Watlass
 

The Horners of Thornton Watlass

The following is the work of Geoff Place in Australia. Both Geoff and I have a very strong feeling that this line of Horners is connected to the other Nidderdale lines, but cannot as yet make a connection.

Please feel free to contact Geoff here if you have any further leads!

Ralph Horner of East Marforth

The Horners in West Witton and Mariford appear to have gained from the dissolution of Jervaulx and Coverham Abbeys. Coverham Abbey had been granted free warren in the demesne lands of Coverham, Caldbergh and West Scrafton in 1271. They also held one and a half carucates of land, including a mill, in Coverham.

The Horners seem to have been resident in the manor of Wensleydale at Fingall, near Leyburn since 1572, when a Radulphus Horner was recorded as a tenant of Lady Margaret Lennox in East Marforth [1] . This is probably the same Ralph Horner who is recorded as a tenant of Rookwith and East and West Mariford in 1587 [2] . Incidentally, this is very near to East Witton, which lies just below Middleham, and East Marforth may have been in East Witton Parish or Wensley Parish. The manor of Wensleydale had been given to the Lennox family in 1544 after the dissolution of the monasteries [3] . The Horners seem to have been in East Witton since the late sixteenth century as in the courts Rolls of East Witton in 1572 a Thomas Horner accused a John Fidler of taking goods worth 20/- and he was fined [4] . As High Marriforth and East Witton are close to each other it is highly likely that these two Horners were related. These Horners may ultimately be connected with the Middleham and Coverham Horners, see Middleham Horners. The Horners of Thornton watlass may be connected with these lines.

John Horner of Rookwith

John Horner, of Rookwith in Thornton Watlass Parish, was the son of another John Horner and was born about 1695 [5] . It is at present unknown whether John had a brother William Horner.

John Horner, of Rookwith, married Isabel Carter in Thornton Watlass parish on 13 January 1724 [6] . John and Isabel had one son John Horner who was born in 1724 [7] .

John Horner of Thornton Watlass

John married Dorothy Smorthwaite on the 10th June 1754 [8] . They had a family of six children including five sons, Christopher, John, William, Thomas and Robert, and one daughter Elizabeth [9] . Their daughter Elizabeth did not make it to adulthood and died on 2 June 1764 aged only six [10] . John and Dorothy and their eldest two sons, Christopher, aged ten, and John, aged three, would have had a terrible summer burying their only daughter.

John and Dorothy's eldest son Christopher married Elizabeth Whitfield in 1783 [11] . Perhaps Dorothy made it to the wedding before she passed away in the same year [12] . It is not at present certain when John passed away, but too may have been at his eldest sons wedding. Christopher and Elizabeth set up home and soon started a family of four children, two daughters, Dorothy and Elizabeth, and two sons, Christopher and John [13] . Their daughter Elizabeth died in 1808 aged twenty-four and was buried in Thornton Watlass [14] . Christopher outlived his daughter by only another four years before passing away in December 1812, aged fifty eight years [15] .


William Horner 'Lime Kiln Man' of Watlass Wood

A William Horner, yeoman, of Watllass Wood, may be the son of John Horner, senior, of Rookwith above. This William was born about 1695. He married Mary and they had a family of six children.

In 1722, William and Mary appear to have been living in the parish of Well, where their eldest son William was christened [16] . By 1725, they had moved to Watlass Wood where their second son Christopher was christened [17] . Two years later in 1727 William and Mary appear to have moved again to 'ye Woodhouse' where their next three children, Mary, Martha and John were born [18] . Another move to 'ye Crossways' in 1734 saw the birth of their youngest son Robert [19] .

William was the was the Lime Kiln man of Watlass. In the the middle of the 18th century, lime was in widespread use for reclaiming waste and for improving existing land, as well as for mortar and limewash [20] . In addition it was used for a host of small-scale industrial purposes, such as tanning, textiles, soap and paper making, that took place in villages across the area. there was a large increase in the demand for lime as swathes of moor and fell were carved up into new fields in the Enclosure Movement of this period.

All such kilns operated in much the same way. Kindling was laid on a grill at the base of the cylindrical, or oval, vertical bowl with alternate layers of fuel and stone being laid on top. Most kilns had a small quarry immediately behind and a ramp so that stone and fuel could easily be tipped into the bowl. Once a kiln had been filled to capacity, the rate of burn was regulated to allow actual burning in the central section of the bowl; hot air from here dried out and heated up fresh stone in the upper third; while that in the lower third slowly cooled down ready to be drawn through the draw hole - or eye - at the base. It was then packed in sacks or barrels or loaded on carts to be spread across nearby fields or dispatched to areas lacking limestone. Some kilns were constantly being topped up and drawn in a continuous process. Others were filled up, fired and drawn in one discrete operation, such kilns were worked on an intermittent basis. This must have been dirty work for William.

William Horner appears to have been a trustworthy man as he was appointed the Church Warden in 1733 [21] . He is also recorded on the manorial court roll in 1735 [22] . He died in Thornton Watlass in 1764 [23] .

William Horner 'Lime Kiln Man' of Firby and Watlass

William's eldest son William followed his father as the Lime Kiln Man od Watlass. No doubt he was present at his sister Martha's marriage to John Williamson in 1748 [24] .

William Horner married Mary and set up home in Watlass. [25] . They had eleven children in Watlass between 1752 and 1777 including four surviving sons, William, Thomas, Christopher, and Robert [26] . Their second son Thomas died in 1755 before he reached his first birthday, and their fifth son, John, died when he was five years old in 1770 [27] . William and Mary's five daughters born in Watlass all seem to have survived childhood; Mary, Jane , Ann, Elizabeth and Eleanor [28] .

William Horner was admitted to the Court in 1747 and made the church warden in 1762 [29] . In 1782 he probably attended the wedding of his eldest daughter Mary to John egglestone in Thornton Watlass [30] .

William died five years later in 1787 in Bedale parish, “William Horner of Firby in Parish of Bedale but late of Watlass" [31] . His youngest daughter Eleanor was buried in Bedale aged only twenty-four [32] .


William's family appear to have settled in Bedale as his youngest son Robert married and had a family there in the late eighteenth century. Robert married Mary Baldridge in 1773 in Bedale [33] . They had three daughters, of whom only two survived to adulthood, Jane and Elizabeth [34] .


 

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[1] High Marriforth and Marriforth Farm probably represent this on the ordnance survey maps today. These small farms lie between Finghall and Jervaulx Abbey, and Ellingstring.

[2] A Ralph Horner and other tenants of Rookwith and East and West Mariford were in dispute with a Christopher Jackson over the Parish of Watlos and the parsonage of Watlos and the vicarage of Thornton Steward late of Jervaulx Abbey. See PROCAT E134/30 Eliz/1ti/16. Interestingly in 1156 Jervaulx Abbey moved to a new site near east Witton from Fors. The land was originally given by Conan, Earl of Richmond.

[3] The manor of Wensleydale included Jervaulx Abbey and the hamlets of Sklagill, Cams House, Simonstone and Cotterdale. In 1544, these lands were given to Matthew Lennox Earl of Lennox, along with Settrington and temple Newsam manors, and his grandson James I brought them to the crown when he became King in 1603. In 1573, Lennox was in conflict with his tenants over the terms of their leases. Under Margaret Lennox they paid fines worth 9-10 years rent for leases of 21 years, now they were asked to pay fines for 30 years. Richard Bessom was granted the bailiwick of Wensleydale for life and became Forester of Kettlewell, Parker of Woodhall Park and bow bearer of Wensleydale in 1604. The manor of Wensleydale was eventually held by George Cole who leased lands to the tenants in 1624 for 2,000 years and annual rents. In 1717, the manor was bought by Earl Lonsdale and in 1723 was purchased by Edward Wortley and the names of the manors were changed to High and Low Abbotside. See Three seventeenth century surveys.

[4] 9 September 1572.

[5] John Horner senior was born about 1653. John Horner died on 10 September 1723 in Thornton Watlass. His ancestry is as yet unknown. Information from Geoff Place.

[6] Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[7] John Horner was christened on 26 December 1724 in Thornton Watlass. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[8] Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[9] Christopher Horner was christened on 20 October l754, Elizabeth Horner was christened on 2 February 1758, John Horner was christened on 13 September 1761, William Horner was christened on 14 November 1765, Thomas Horner was christened October 1765 and Robert Horner was christened on 8 March 1770. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[10] Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[11] Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[12] Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[13] Elizabeth Horner was christened on 22 August 1784, Dorothy Horner was christened on 5 March 1786, Christopher Horner was christened on 23 April 1791 and John Horner was christened on19 July 1795. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[14] Elizabeth Horner died on 4 October 1808. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[15] Christopher Horner died on 25 December 1812 aged 58 years. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[16] There is a christening in Well in 1721 of a William Horner to a William Horner.

[17] Christopher Horner was christened on 15 January 1725. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[18] Mary Horner was christened on 19 November 1727, .Martha Horner was christened on 26 March 1730, John Horner was christened on 27 April 1732. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[19] Robert Horner was christened on 21 April 1734. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[21] Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[23] Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[24] Martha Horner married John Williamson in Thornton Watlass 28 January 1748. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[25] There is a marriage on 19th August 1751 of William Horner and Mary White in Well.

[26] William Horner was christened on 18 November 1752, Christopher Horner was christened on 10 January 1758, Thomas Horner was christened on 1 May 1767, Robert Horner was christened on 26 March 1771. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[27] Thomas Horner was christened on 26 May 1754 and died on 12 January 1755.John Horner was christened on 5 March 1765 and died on 6 August 1770. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[28] Mary Horner was christened on 29 January 1756,Jane Horner was christened on 29 February 1760, Ann Horner was christened on 18 April 1762,Elizabeth Horner was christened on 1 August 1769. Eleanor Horner was christened on 8 January 1777. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[30] Mary Horner married John Eggleston on 20 April 1782. Thornton Watlass Parish Registers.

[31] Bedale Parish registers.

[32] Eleanor Horner died on 15 July 1791 “daughter of William late of Watlass Lime Kilns". Bedale Parish Registers.

[33] Robert Horner married in Bedale 1793 to Mary Baldridge.Bedale Parish Registers.

[34] Jane Horner was christened on 25 June 1795, Elizabeth Horner was christened on 16June 1799 and died 1803. Another Elizabeth Horner was christened in Bedale. Bedale Parish Registers.

 

 

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